if police lie, are they the enemy?

## if police lie, are they the enemy?

#### 2 February 2016
from celibate pedophiles

### ethan edwards

| I've reluctantly concluded that in the US, to the extent I have to assume the police lie to me or my fellow citizens, they have become the Enemy. Ethan Edwards is the co-founder of Virtuous Pedophiles. Blog posts reflect his personal views, and are not statements from the organization. It is fashionable on the internet to trash The System as rotten. I point out that compared to most past times and a great many places in the world today, the US justice system is pretty darn good. The judiciary does a decent job of looking out for the individual against the excesses of government power.In the US we are all aware of the Miranda Warnings, whereby police must inform suspects of their right to remain silent. What I was not aware of until recently was that the police could lie to a suspect during questioning, admit this to the judge, and the judicial system would think this was just fine. has over 5,000,000 views on YouTube and presents a compelling case for why no one should talk to the police. But I don't believe it emphasizes the point that among the other dangers, the police might lie to you. Now, police are human beings, and some are even corrupt. As part of living in the real, messy world, I would expect that some will lie. But to have lying officially approved by the courts is something I find quite chilling. The police argue that this is OK because they are dealing with criminals and it is a tool they need to do their job. A classic lie is to say that unless they confess right away, things will go much harder for them. Another is to say that the person they were with has already confessed. The theory is that innocent people will give honest answers, while guilty people will incriminate themselves. However, people can want to keep secrets out of embarrassment or a desire not to rat on friends. They also may believe they will be convicted even if they are innocent once the police have turned against them. And we are supposed to be guaranteed that we are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Most of us want to teach our children to tell the truth. I wonder how cops answer their questioning teenagers when asked why they are professional liars. Once lying is accepted as part of police operations, surely there is going to be a tendency to tell a few more lies (maybe the court wouldn't approve but they'll never know...). Why not simply lie about what the suspect said? Why not just make up a confession? Or, why not introduce them to their court-appointed attorney who will give the promise of attorney-client privilege — who is in fact a policeman and not an attorney at all? And if the courts allow police to lie, a person might begin to question whether they can believe anything a judge says to them either. An extension of this idea that the police are just lying to people they think are guilty is that their prejudices will shine through and they will lie to people they don't like. Black Americans have serious grievances with US police. Now I as a pedophile realize I am also in a category of people that the police don't like — and with a vengeance. To what extent is this a problem specific to the US? Are there countries where the police are not allowed to lie? I've reluctantly concluded that in the US, to the extent I have to assume the police lie to me or my fellow citizens, they have become the Enemy. And since they condone this police behavior, the judicial system too is an important sense the Enemy. About the author: Ethan Edwards is a pseudonym. I am a pedophile, always celibate, and I have never seen child pornography. My attraction is strongest to girls around 4 years old, but I am also attracted to girls and women up through their 30s or beyond. Now in my late 60s, I'm divorced and living alone. I was married for over 10 years and was heavily involved with raising my 3 daughters. For most of my career I was a successful software engineer. I am very unusual for a pedophile in that I didn't realize that I was one until I was in my 50s—but it was there all along. I am angry that we all must remain silent or risk losing everything. That was my mindset when I co-founded Virtuous Pedophiles in 2012. I soon learned of the the terror of the typical pedophile who realizes as a teenager that his attraction isn't going to go away, who has nowhere to turn for help. The injustice I am most passionate about is the harsh legal penalties imposed on pedophiles who passively view illegal images of children. I stepped down from my role as a director of Virtuous Pedophiles early in 2024 and am delighted to pass the mantle on to a younger generation. This content was taken from Ethan's longstanding blog, Celibate Pedophiles. Some of the titles and taglines have been edited for their inclusion at thepword. You can see an earlier version of the blog at the wayback machine. |

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