review: ethical porn for dicks, part 3 of 3

## review: ethical porn for dicks, part 3 of 3

#### 26 February 2017
from celibate pedophiles

### ethan edwards

| The author is David Ley, the full title is Ethical porn for dicks: a man's guide to responsible viewing pleasure. This is part 3 of a 3-part review, on implications for pedophiles. Ethan Edwards is the co-founder of Virtuous Pedophiles. Blog posts reflect his personal views, and are not statements from the organization. The author is David Ley, the full title is Ethical porn for dicks: a man's guide to responsible viewing pleasure. This is part 3 of a 3-part review, on implications for pedophiles.Ley has not one good word to say about CP, nor should he. Not accessing it is a goal we should all share. Yet we pedophiles can naturally ask what lessons are in this book for us. One of Ley's main points is that sexual fantasy and private masturbation can be part of the good life, and partner sex is not necessarily the best. Applying this to pedophilia, we amplify the last point — child-adult partner sex is illegal, immoral, and in many cases truly horrifying. But Ley's views would suggest that a pedophile's sexual fantasy and private masturbation are also part of the good life for a pedophile. The market-level considerations also look very different in the case of true CP. Children are harmed when it is made, it is arguably unethical to get sexual pleasure from such material, and it is certainly highly illegal to even possess it. But porn (defined roughly as material that is intended to be erotic) does not include everything that a person might find erotic. In talking about adult porn, Ley did not spend much time on material that is only suggestive, including things as simple as women in lingerie catalogs or in bathing suits. Men often find such material erotic, but it doesn't play much role in societal debate because the explicitly sexual porn is legal and freely available. The equivalent images of children is available, as are artistic nude photographs and material from genuine nudist colonies. They are usually considered legal, despite the seeming efforts of some zealous prosecutors to make any picture of a child illegal if in the possession of a pedophile. Let's focus on girls and boys in bathing suits. Parents post such pictures on the web in vast quantities, with no hint of any erotic intention, yet they can be erotic to pedophiles. I think pedophiles masturbating to such material is just fine, as long as they don't make their interest known in a way that can get back to the subject. I think Ley's values and reasoning should lead to the same place. What are the potential problems? Perhaps it would lead men to abuse children? As Ley argues, studies suggest that the availability of porn decreases sexual violence, and the availability of (real) CP reduces child sex abuse. Perhaps we are objectifying the children? As Ley notes regarding women in porn, objectification is a natural part of life in some circumstances. I argued much the same in . Perhaps the children are harmed because men are thinking sexual thoughts about them? There is , and the men surely should not leave lewd comments on the blog where they get the pictures. The real problem is not some actual consequence in the world. The real problem is emotional. Most people think pedophilic sexual attraction is horrifying and disgusting. A pedophile masturbating while thinking of a child is worse. If it's a picture of an actual child, it's yet worse. If he doesn't feel guilty about it, that's even worse. But that is all emotion. As long as it doesn't lead to abuse of children — and there is no reason to think it will — there is no actual problem that can be supported by facts and evidence. There are many liberals who value human liberty and think that all people should be able to live the best lives they can. To be true to their values, they must extend this to pedophiles. They should overcome their icky feelings and eventually come to accept pedophiles masturbating to legal images of children, if they are freely offered with no erotic intent. About the author: Ethan Edwards is a pseudonym. I am a pedophile, always celibate, and I have never seen child pornography. My attraction is strongest to girls around 4 years old, but I am also attracted to girls and women up through their 30s or beyond. Now in my late 60s, I'm divorced and living alone. I was married for over 10 years and was heavily involved with raising my 3 daughters. For most of my career I was a successful software engineer. I am very unusual for a pedophile in that I didn't realize that I was one until I was in my 50s—but it was there all along. I am angry that we all must remain silent or risk losing everything. That was my mindset when I co-founded Virtuous Pedophiles in 2012. I soon learned of the the terror of the typical pedophile who realizes as a teenager that his attraction isn't going to go away, who has nowhere to turn for help. The injustice I am most passionate about is the harsh legal penalties imposed on pedophiles who passively view illegal images of children. I stepped down from my role as a director of Virtuous Pedophiles early in 2024 and am delighted to pass the mantle on to a younger generation. This content was taken from Ethan's longstanding blog, Celibate Pedophiles. Some of the titles and taglines have been edited for their inclusion at thepword. You can see an earlier version of the blog at the wayback machine. |

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