apparent self-interest

## apparent self-interest

#### 27 October 2014
from celibate pedophiles

### ethan edwards

| Most pedophiles become known when they commit crimes. Another way they come to the public's attention is when they ask for changes in public policy. The group with highest name recognition on the matter is NAMBLA. They argue that boys should be able to consent to sex with anyone at any age — to prevent... Ethan Edwards is the co-founder of Virtuous Pedophiles. Blog posts reflect his personal views, and are not statements from the organization. Most pedophiles become known when they commit crimes. Another way they come to the public's attention is when they ask for changes in public policy. The group with highest name recognition on the matter is NAMBLA. They argue that boys should be able to consent to sex with anyone at any age — to prevent them is to impinge on their freedom. Society can't help but notice that a major beneficiary of such youth freedom to have sex with anyone they want is the opportunity it would give pedophiles to be the chosen partners of these liberated youth. Hardly anyone else thinks kids should be able to consent to sex in this way. But (until Virtuous Pedophiles came along?) hardly any pedophile publicly said they shouldn't. This makes pedophiles seem grossly out of touch with the reality of who children are, and for self-interested reasons. The fact that they don't seem to understand or care how stunningly politically ineffective that position is further marks them as strange people. Of course, ultimately their argument like any other argument deserves a fair hearing on its merits.I want to take a look at the self-interest angle of my various positions. When I say that society's hysteria deters all men from relating to children, I am concerned about the children, but my self-interest lies with the men (mostly NOT pedophiles) who are deprived of meaningful contact with children. I have argued that pedophiles are pretty much like everyone else in their humanity and the range of their personalities, activities, and moral compass. I have said that not all pedophiles abuse children, that pedophiles deserve full civil rights, and that we deserve access to compassionate mental health care. Those are self-interested but in the typical sense which applies when any group asks for their own rights — they don't impinge on anyone else. I say it is OK for pedophiles to fantasize about children and that virtual CP should be legal. I argue that simple possession of CP should not be a criminal offense. I say that mandated reporter laws for therapists regarding child sex abuse should be eliminated. I only make these arguments after arguing that on balance these positions do not harm children, but it is not proven that they actively help children by reducing abuse. One reason to be in favor is support of civil liberties. But why do I write about them? The reason I write about CP possession as opposed to the freedom to propose radical political ideas, for instance, is that I am in touch with many pedophiles who have unjustly served prison terms for CP possession. I believe on all of these issues that pedophiles have done negligible if any harm. I have expressed sympathy with pedophiles who get married and do not tell their spouses they are pedophiles, and I have cautiously endorsed pedophiles becoming parents. Those positions would seem to be self-interested. I also argue against civil commitment for sex offenders, for abolition of the sex offender registry, and an end to restrictions on residency after an offender is released. In this case I am arguing for the rights of criminals who have done wrong. My goal is to match criminal penalties to the severity of the offense when compared to other crimes, rather than viewing the pedophile as a monster who deserves extra punishment for his thoughts. But the reason I write about that rather than drastically reducing penalties for nonviolent drug offenses (which I am also passionately in favor of) is self-interest from identification with a broader group. Although sex offenders against children are criminals, the ones who are pedophiles do have one thing in common with me — the attraction. Self-interest is typically at play in what all people do and what positions they hold. An argument is considered more favorably if there is no self-interest involved. If the argument goes against self-interest, it is especially notable. The Virtuous Pedophiles position against making adult-child sex legal and accepted is one such position, given the common view that all pedophiles want to fulfill their carnal desires with children. But this is a bigoted view of pedophiles. Many pedophiles would sooner die than harm a child, so given those (correct) views, adult-child sex is not in their interest. In sum, I must acknowledge that my arguments have an element of self-interest and would be better received if made by those who are not pedophiles. One value I can add to most of these issues is some familiarity with who celibate pedophiles really are. This is vital with a group that is so elusive and secretive. This familiarity is based largely on research and extensive contacts with them online, though actually being a pedophile also plays a small role. I have also made some arguments that would not fit into a "public relations plan" for pedophiles. I have suggested a higher-than-expected concentration among pedophiles of Asperger's or autism-spectrum conditions. I suggested that societal restrictions on men working with children leads to a higher-than-expected proportion of less-than-ideal men volunteering for those positions. And even raising the issue of self-interest is arguably not in our self-interest as seen through the lens of public relations. About the author: Ethan Edwards is a pseudonym. I am a pedophile, always celibate, and I have never seen child pornography. My attraction is strongest to girls around 4 years old, but I am also attracted to girls and women up through their 30s or beyond. Now in my late 60s, I'm divorced and living alone. I was married for over 10 years and was heavily involved with raising my 3 daughters. For most of my career I was a successful software engineer. I am very unusual for a pedophile in that I didn't realize that I was one until I was in my 50s—but it was there all along. I am angry that we all must remain silent or risk losing everything. That was my mindset when I co-founded Virtuous Pedophiles in 2012. I soon learned of the the terror of the typical pedophile who realizes as a teenager that his attraction isn't going to go away, who has nowhere to turn for help. The injustice I am most passionate about is the harsh legal penalties imposed on pedophiles who passively view illegal images of children. I stepped down from my role as a director of Virtuous Pedophiles early in 2024 and am delighted to pass the mantle on to a younger generation. This content was taken from Ethan's longstanding blog, Celibate Pedophiles. Some of the titles and taglines have been edited for their inclusion at thepword. You can see an earlier version of the blog at the wayback machine. |

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a moment in the sun |  | on stopitnow — vengeance still lurks |  | poem: oven
ender We're out there in the open, we're identifying openly as pedophiles, as people who are attracted to children through no choice of ours, and you know we're there to raise awareness and education. |  | ethan edwards An honest statement would be that you can avoid compounding your criminal exposure by stopping, but you are still liable for past crimes. |  | brandon goletzski the summer is at its full weight / i stand in the air-conditioned kitchen looking out from the window (why / is it that so much happens at kitchen windows?)

a moment in the sun ender We're out there in the open, we're identifying openly as pedophiles, as people who are attracted to children through no choice of ours, and you know we're there to raise awareness and education.
on stopitnow — vengeance still lurks ethan edwards An honest statement would be that you can avoid compounding your criminal exposure by stopping, but you are still liable for past crimes.
poem: oven brandon goletzski the summer is at its full weight / i stand in the air-conditioned kitchen looking out from the window (why / is it that so much happens at kitchen windows?)